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Nov 27, 2024
France and Lebanon
Two more questions about the ceasefire agreement (which in principle I think is fine)
1. I did not realize this yesterday but have become aware of it today. Israel signed a ceasefire agreement with Lebanon, not Hezbollah. All along we said we have no beef with Lebanon, only Hezbollah, and the hostilities were only with Hezbollah. Why do we need a ceasefire with Lebanon if we were only fighting with Hezbollah? And, can Lebanon be responsible and strong enough to impose its will on Hezbollah?
At best this looks bad, as if Netanyahu agreed to the ceasefire only to get France to back down form the ICC ruling. Did Netanyahu agree to this ceasefire not because it is best for the country but because it is best for him?
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Hezbollah is a major part of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah controlled major chunks of Lebanese terroritory. If Lebanon was left out of this agreement, it would confirm to the world that it's a fake country unable to control its territory and therefore unable to complain when Israel enters it. Also, Lebanon has to enforce the ceasefire by containing Hezbollah {cue laughter} and preventing it from moving back south {cue more laughter}. And no, Lebanon will not be responsible and strong enough. If anything, Hezbollah will simply dress its fighters in Lebanese army uniforms and use Lebanese army equipment and move back south disguised as "the Lebanese army"
ReplyDelete2) Remember that for Bibi, what's best for him is best for the country.
Your cynicism regarding Bibi knows no bounds. France was a side issue. The big thing here was Obama and his catspaw Mah Yofisnik Hochstein twisting Israel's arm.
ReplyDeleteside issue? lol. that is Bibi's big issue nowadays.
ReplyDeleteyes, I dont trust Netanyahu, have lost faith in him, well before the war. In my opinion, for about 3-4 years now, is that Bibi does what's best for Bibi, sometimes that works out well for the rest of us and sometimes it doesnt. Many people have lost faith in Netanyahu which is why I feel it is important for him to go back to the people and ask for their faith in him to be renewed via new elections.
Like I said, Bibi conflates what's best for him with what's best for Israel. For him, self-interst is patriotism.
ReplyDeleteHowever, when people demand new elections, they don't think of the consequences. First of all, lots of polls suggest another deadlock like the last 4 times so your demand could set off another round of election after election after election, all the while Bibi stays on as PM so you don't get what you want. Second, what if he loses? Who exactly is better positioned right now to lead the country and stand up to the incredible pressure from the Americans to surrender to Hamas and Hezbollah?
if there are elections and he wins that is fine by me even though I dont like or trust him - at least he will have won back the faith of the people in him.
DeleteCharles De Gaulle said the cemetery is full of indispensable men. Nobody is irreplaceable, including Bibi. I dont believe that nonsense that nobody else could handle this job. That comes from Bibi's masterful marketing and his fans pushing that narrative.
If there is a deadlock and more elections, so be it. That doesnt bother me. That's the process. Maybe we'll get luck and some people will start to think out of the box, stop with personality bans, stop the stupid right left breakdown where for each the other side is evil, and eventually we'll come to a solution with a winner.
All that being said, as I have said before, what I really want is that anyone with a touch fo responsibility for october 7, from both sides of the aisle, shuld be banned from running for election to Knesset, and maybe even all 120 and we should have new leadership. The yes bibi, no bibi should stop and the next government during the war (if there would be elections now) should be a unity government led by whoever has the largest party with a rotation agreement, with the fringe parties only as add-ons and a commitment to keep it that way until the elections after that so the war can be fought with broad consensus
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Because the last time Bibi won there were no protests against him?
DeleteOh, right, there were. OK, what's your next excuse?
whats my connection to the protesters? I do not speak for them
Deleteperhaps I should expand on that a little bit. I am a card carrying member of the Likud and have been for around 20 years (I dont remember exactly). I have nothing to do with the left wing protest movement just because I dont like Bibi. I dont speak for them nordo they speak for me. I have been contemplating canceling my membership because I dont like where the Likud has gone in recent years but so far I have chosen not to.
DeleteThat being said I dont know what you are so upset about regarding the protest movement. A staple of any democracy is the freedom to protest. It does not bother me that they are protesting, just like the protests of any other myriad of causes and groups of which I have nothing to do with or disagree with dont bother me, unless I am getting stuck in the traffic they cause. The right to protest is a basic freedom. Of course it should be done legally with permits and security and whatever else is needed, and they should not get violent and if/when they do the police should act accordingly. Bibi's fans, for some reason, think that protesting is bad and evil and even often treasonous.
The problem is that when the Jewish vote is split, the losing side doesn't accept the winning's side's victory. Like Nachum said, Bibi legally won the last election, legally put together a coalition and legally introduced judicial reform legislation.
DeleteThe response from the opposition wasn't "Well if we win the next election we'll cancel all the that and restore the Court's dictatoship." It was "This government is illegitimate, its MK's are racist fascists, the prime minister is a criminal and the legislation is illegal." Not a compromising bunch.
A deadlocked election leads to Bibi staying in power - intolerable to the Left - and another election the Left won't cleanly win - again, intolerable to the Left. The level of discord will go through the roof and when that next election again leads nowhere, it'll just worsen.
For my money, the best solution is to end the war as soon as possible by getting the hostages back and completing the esmasculation of Iran's proxies and then Bibi announcing his triumphant retirement and then going to elections with a new Likud leader. But if Bibi sees that quitting now will lead to the Left trying to destroy him like the American Left tried with Trump for the last 4 years, there's no way he's going anywhere.
Great, Rafi, so you're not them. But they're the ones making the noise, not you.
DeleteGarnel, thank you.