Showing posts with label Mamach. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mamach. Show all posts
Sep 18, 2022
Quote of the Day
Whoever wants to send his children to the Mamach controlled by the Ministry of Education where Judaism is not taught - they can go there. The Mamach was established by Shai Piron who wanted to destroy the Haredi education system. The gedolei yisrael are against it.
-- MK Moshe Gafni (UTJ)
1. this is a bit of a change of tune. Until now Gafni has always said he is opposed to Mamach and will work against them and try to get them all shut down. Now he is saying the gedolim are against it but whoever wants to send his kids there, go ahead.
Interesting
2. The Mamachs are all staffed by Haredi educators and staff. Yes, they are under the auspices of the Ministry of Education, but Judaism is not taught there? What are those Haredi rebbis and teachers teaching, if not Torah and Judaism? Gafni does not hold the monopoly on Judaism.
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Jun 22, 2022
Quote of the Day
There is no actuality of "Haredi Public Schools" (editors note: in Hebrew, Mama"ch - Mamlachti Charedi), it is a self-contradiction. Even if there is a little bit of it today, it will be stopped.
I suggest you dont try to force your way on the secular public whose chidlren are today not learning gemara and Tanakch as they learned up until 20 years ago in all schools. And then come to us and try to force secular stuies on the Haredi community. Do not try to change us as you will not succeed.
--MK Moshe Gafni (UTJ)
The Mamach schools exist. I would be surprised if he thinks he can shut them down. He might be able to fight against funding new ones, if UTJ ends up in the next coalition, but even when he was in the previous coalition and actively fought against it Mamach schoosl opened, even with all the difficulties he threw their way. And nobody forced anyone into the Mamach system. The parebnts who fought to open it did so because they wanted that type of education for their children.
Gafni is at least consistent. He has always opposed them and has always promised to fight against them.
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Jan 26, 2022
Belz mainstreaming Haredi public schools
The news is reporting that the Belz people (educational committee, representatives of the Admor and whoever else is important there) have been negotiating with the government to convert the Belz educational system and all, or most of, its schools, into joining the public school system. They would become what has become known as "MaMaCh" - Mamlachti Haredi schools. That is the public school system for the Haredi community.
If the negotiations succeed, Belz would benefit by possibly increasing the government support of their schools to up to 100%. As a private school now they get only 55% max of government support, and they always claim much less in reality. It seems they are in a bit of a financial bind and recent fundraising efforts have fallen short, along with efforts to increase support from Chinuch Atzmai also failing.
As part of the MaMaCh system Belz would commit to implementing full secular studies into their school systems with the bagrut testing as well. They would focus on bagrut in the fields of mathematics, English language and Hebrew language. the government would likely have to agree on no external supervision and inspections and would instead limit the supervision to reviewing the semi-annual testing. The level of support would also depend on the level of success in the testing, as that would indicate that they are actually teaching and studying the material and taking it seriously.
This is a major shift. The institutional Haredi community has vehemently opposed the MaMaCh system. Even if it does not work out in the end, though right now it looks like it is nearly a done deal, the fact that they have been negotiating, and seriously negotiating, is itself a big deal and a monumental shift in Haredi society. I dont know if it will lead to other communities adjusting attitudes as well and consider joining the MaMaCh system, or at least not opposing it as strongly they have until now, but a major community like Belz joining it is definitely going to go a long way to kashering it in the minds of many.
The Haredi community always claimed, especially about the educational system, that they cannot be bought for money - they will never change just for increased budgets. It looks like that is just a myth.
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