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Feb 18, 2025

Trump wont bring our salvation

Donald Trump, President of the United States of America, hit the ground running even before he officially took office and has made a big splash. His affect on the Israel-Gaza situation has been immediate and Israelis are largely ecstatic so far by Trump's involvement and positions. 

Many of his fans have considered him other worldly, sent by God (isn't everybody?), a harbinger of the Messiah, and according to some even the Messiah himself!

I guess Rav Moshe Shternbuch is not one of those fans.

Behadrei is reporting on a shiur given by Rav Moshe Shternbuch in which he said that people think we are strong, have a strong army, a powerful air force, but nothing can come of any of that. The only thing we have is God and the redemption can only come when we recognize that nobody can help us other than God h(H)imself.

Rav Shternbuch continued saying right now people are relying on the new president of the US and they think he will help us. You have to know, those people are delaying the coming of Mashiach. Only when people understand that God is the only power that can help us, nobody but God, we wont be saved by the President of the USA, only then can God bring our salvation.

Fair enough, but cant Trump (or anyone else) be the tool God sends via which the salvation is effected?

What do you think?



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6 comments:

  1. I believe that both can be true. Salvation can come via Trump. But people need to stop relying on Trump as if he really has any say in the matter. It only comes from Hashem - and that is where our pleas must be directed. It was easier to see it when Biden was in office. It's more of a challenge to see it now that Trump is in office, but we must not rely on him. As the Mishna in Sotah says: אין לנו להשען אלא על אבינו שבשמים. After watching the English-language video in the article you linked to, I believe that this was Rav Shternbuch's intent as well.

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  2. Next you'll tell me that salvation can come from a beautiful young jewish girl intermarrying with a king many saw as foolish?????
    bsorot tovot

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  3. R' Sternbuch and his ilk have closed minded thinking. They have decided based on their learning on how the ge'ulah will unfold and they are convinced that it's how it will be. God Himself would be declared a heretic, chas v'shalom, if He chose to bring it about a different way. If God wanted to choose a completely secular Austrian journalist, well He has no right because that's how they think He should act!
    Rabbis like him in the 1930's in Europe were the ones telling Jews to stay put until Moshiach came and say lots of Tehillim. Fat lot of good it did them.

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    1. Yes, over a thousand plus years Jews developed very specific ideas of how the Geulah would come about. (Disregarding very strong warnings to contrary by both Chazal and the Rambam.) When it came about in a very different way, some adapted. Charedim didn't. They're still waiting for a man on a white donkey blowing a shofar as he enters Sha'ar HaRachamim and all their shuls and houses magically flying to Israel.

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    2. I recall a Lubavitcher telling me about how the gu'elah MUST happen because that's how the Rambam paskened and God is obliged to follow his psak. I was dumbfounded.

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  4. Well , let see… Did not Hashem assign Moshe Rabbeinu to be our savior and he initially came from Pharaoh’s Palace! The way I see it, we don’t depend on Trump, he is just the mouth piece of Hashem and in that we can take comfort. All the sources say, when you least expect it, expect it. Well, it looks pretty upside down to not expect it……

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