Yes and no. His implication is that the Biblical requirements for conviction are so strong, most criminals would go free, and therefore there would be little fear of punishment. This is much the argument against Rabbi Akiva (IIRC) in Makos, with regards to never sentencing a defendant to death. It ignores, however, the idea that Bet Din has other ways to punish criminals besides those outlined in Chumash.
always difficult to figure out. I dont think our society is ready for, or wants, a halachic state. it would impede many of the freedoms were are very used to. Theoretically we want it, but in reality? I have heard a chashuv rav say that most frum people would not want such a thing today. our society is just not there - not ready for it
His quote makes no sense whatsoever!
ReplyDeleteYes and no. His implication is that the Biblical requirements for conviction are so strong, most criminals would go free, and therefore there would be little fear of punishment. This is much the argument against Rabbi Akiva (IIRC) in Makos, with regards to never sentencing a defendant to death. It ignores, however, the idea that Bet Din has other ways to punish criminals besides those outlined in Chumash.
Deleteso strong or there are so few halachic punishments meted out to most of the common crimes?
DeleteNot Biblical, Talmudic.
DeleteSmoking on Shaboss 9lighting a fire) would be punishable by death
ReplyDeleteMakes it impossible to take him seriously as a so called Torah leader when he thinks there is a better way than the Torah way.
ReplyDeletealways difficult to figure out. I dont think our society is ready for, or wants, a halachic state. it would impede many of the freedoms were are very used to. Theoretically we want it, but in reality? I have heard a chashuv rav say that most frum people would not want such a thing today. our society is just not there - not ready for it
DeleteSmoking on Shaboss (lighting a fire would be punishable by death)
ReplyDeletebut sexual abusers would go scott free
Deletethe king had a justice system that ran parallel to the batei dinim in order to maintain a civil society.
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Joel Rich
Am told this is Old Discussions going back 80 years
ReplyDeleteRabbi Stav and co. are reinventing the wheel