Showing posts with label public transportation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label public transportation. Show all posts

Sep 16, 2025

Uber might be coming to Israel

Channel 12 News has reported today that Minister of Transportation has been working to get Uber operating in Israel. She gave the green light with official permits 3 months ago. Uber service is planned to be allowed to start operations in Israel in the first quarter of 2026.

I said "planned" and not "expected" because in reality it seems this has a long way to go, and will be a big fight.

According to the new, Regev has not yet involved the various regulatory services that need to be involved and to figure how they can legally operate, nor has she involved any other Ministries yet that need to be coordinated with. And beyond that, the taxi driver associations are promising to fight this as they have in the past.

It seems the big obstacle is that taxi drivers have all sorts of requirements such as insurance that is four times the price of a private vehicle, expensive licensing, regulations, purchase of a "number" that allows them to drive passengers for a fee, and more, and they consider it unreasonable they need to pay all that and comply with all the various regulations and then the State goes ahead and lets anybody who wants to to drive passengers for a fee without all the regulations, licensing, insurance, et al.

Another problem considered significant is that studies have shown Uber causes more traffic as people tend to abandon public transportation and use Uber, making more cars on the road. Additionally, they say it also causes more traffic because more cars are driving around empty until they get a fare or returning from a fare. Supposedly this is one of the big reasons it was turned down in the past when Yisrael Katz (today Defense Minister) when he was Transportation Minister.

In general I think this can be a big benefit. It will bring prices down and will also allow any average person with a car to make a little money on the side. Obviously all the regulatory stuff needs to be worked out. The argument of the taxi drivers is reasonable asking why they need to pay so much more and follow more rules if the State is then going to just allow anyone who wants to to drive passengers with no regulations and fees. I would not be surprised if this doesn't go through in the end because of that, but it would be a shame. I hope they find a reasonable way to work it out and compensate the taxi drivers and make it cheaper and easier for them to continue driving as well if they should choose to. If Uber does get final approval, I can imagine them all suing the State and then quitting their driving jobs and driving for Uber instead with less overhead.

Also, I am wondering, will this new allowance for Uber allow anyone to drive anyone for a fee similar to Uber or will the allowance be specific to Uber and private drivers not affiliated with Uber will still not be allowed to drive?

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Dec 20, 2023

Interesting Psak: Overcrowded buses

According to Kikar, Rav Yitzchak Zilbershtein, rav of Ramat Elchonon neighbrohood of Bnei Braq, was asked an old question that was famously discussed by Rav Moshe Feinstein.

A teacher in a Haredi seminar asked Rav Zilbershtein about how to handle the bus situation. The buses are very crowded in the morning and evening when men go to kollel, yeshiva and seminary students go to learn, kids go to school, teachers go to teach.. There are not enough buses on the lines, so the ones that do run are very crowded at the busy hours of the day.

The issue with this is, it is so crowded it can lead to breaches of tzniyus, men and women touching as the bus hurtles forward, brakes, jerks around turns, etc. 

While they have approached the askanim to arrange more buses at the busy hours, until then, what should one do about this situation? As long as the situation stays the same is one even allowed to travel on these buses?

Rav Zilbershtein responded that Rav Moshe Feinstein related to a similar question in New York on public transportation and had paskened that such contact is not intentional and is not categorized as touching of any intimacy or desire and is not even prohibited on a rabbinic level, so one could ride on a crowded subway train or bus, even knowing that at times it will cause people to touch.

Rav Zilbershtein continues and says that today's situation is different than the one Rav Moshe related to back then. In Rav Moshe's time he was talking about married men going to work, they were not interested in the other women. Additionally they were traveling distances that could not be accomplished by walking as an alternative. Today's situation being asked about is different as it involved young men and women going to yeshiva and seminary. At such a young age they have desires and their "yetzer" burns inside like a fire, and it will definitely cause improper thoughts.

Ergo, Rav Zilbershtein paskened, if a bus is overcrowded and one cannot travel with men and women separated as would be proper, even Rav Moshe would agree that one cannot alight such a bus - neither men nor women. How can one begin his or her day and succeed in learning when he or she travels without kedusha! Additionally, usually the distance involved is not so great and walking is a viable alternative, so the bus in such a situation is unacceptable.

Rav Zilbershtein added that nowadays with a situation of danger, it is even worse, because the care for tzniyus protects us. Lessening the kedusha leaves us exposed to the dangers.

I guess that is one way to relieve the buses of being overcrowded.. if the other methods dont work...

I do wonder about the statement that married men have no yetzer and do not have such thoughts or interests in the women around them. I wonder if Rav Moshe would have agreed to such a distinction.






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Jun 19, 2023

riding the bus

Today's uproar is about an incident on a bus in Hod Hasharon in which a woman started telling off a Haredi passenger for his appearance and for being on that bus in that neighborhood. The Haredi fellow responded saying he serves in the army and he has a right to be on the bus and to dress however he wants. It turned into an argument with tones raised. After the video of the incident was made public it obviously went viral, with many defending the Haredi fellow and scoffing at the woman because this fellow actually served and continues to do reserve duty and actually served in a very significant combat role.





Honestly, all that defense of the Haredi for having served and for having served well is missing the point.

This fellow does not have the right to dress how he wants because he served in the army. This fellow does not have the right to ride the bus because he served in the army. This fellow has the right to dress how he wants, to associate with whatever community he wants, to ride whatever bus he wants, because he lives in Israel, a [relatively] free society. She has more of a right to wear a tank top or jeans or a red blouse or yellow blouse or brown skirt or gray slacks than he has to wear a white shirt? he can dress how he wants, he can ride whatever bus he wants because that is part of living in a free society. Not because he served in the army. 

Whether he served or not, and I am happy he served though he doesnt need my validation, he can dress how he wants and ride whatever bus he wants.


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Nov 20, 2022

what the people want

The news is reporting that UTJ has demanded from Netanyahu as part of the coalition negotiations that a law will be passed that will allow gender-segregated events in Haredi areas (I dont know the exact wording). The justification is that there are many cultural events that Haredi women will not attend if they are mixed (ie the women will stay home from the concert, or whatever, while the men go to what will essentially be a mens only event). 

Personally I think that is reasonable and decent. It might have to be worked out exactly when it can happen and when it can't - can the kupat cholim also be segregated? buses? or just concerts? If that is their cultural behavior and what they want, I think the State has to figure out how to provide the needs of each type of community according to their cultures.

The thing is, with everyone on that side of the coin now saying this is what tens of thousands of religious and Haredi women want, this is what tens of thousands of religious people want and we can't force our lifestyle on them, what about the other way - doesn't the fact that tens of thousands of people want, for example, public transportation on Shabbos (in their areas) also mean we should give it to them? Why does the State have to supply the needs of only some of the people and not the needs of all of the people? Each one would be supplying the needs/wants of many people against what many other people think is right. How can you justify one by saying that is what the people want while denying the other?



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Aug 16, 2022

fixing public transportation

Transportation Minister Merav Michaeli announced today that she is going to put together a team of inspectors to secretly check bus line sin Jerusalem, Bnie Braq and Bet Shemesh to see that women are not being discriminated against and forced to the back of the bus.

Ok.

On its own that is a good thing and a good project. These guys who force their way onto other people terrorize the community, and it is not just the non-haredim who suffer but even the general mainstream haredim who suffer from their abuse.

That being said, Michaeli should be sending inspectors to, as well, in addition to the above, ensure that there are enough buses, that the buses are running their routes in a timely fashion, that the buses are not overcrowded. The public transportation system is a mess. Michaeli's goal in this position was always to encourage people to use public transportation rather than personal vehicles, but with the way the pt system is so messed up, that is not going to happen. The reason to fix the public transportation system is not so people give up their cars, even if that is her main goal, but because people need to be able to rely on public transportation to get where they need to go in a timely fashion. If buses dont show up, if they run late, if they are overcrowded and cant pick up passengers, the system is worthless.

Fix the discrimination against women, but also fix the system itself so people, men and women and children, can uses the buses reliably.







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Apr 3, 2022

Haredi community upset at public transportation rate reforms

I just wrote about the reforms in the rates of public transportation a few hours ago. It sounded good. It sounded like this would really promote the use of public transportation by significantly lowering the prices for most people. 

It turns out not everyone is happy about this. I was silly to not realize that the Haredi community would be upset about it.

According to Kikar, even though the reform will still help many Haredim, specifically the elderly and the young, along with with the disabled, along with Haredim living in the major cities (such as Haredimin Jerusalem, in Bnei Braq, in Bet Shemesh and in other central towns with significant Haredi communities, but some Haredim might end up paying more for public transportation under the reforms so they are upset. The Haredi communities who live in more distant towns, in the periphery perhaps, in towns like Kiryat Sefer, Emanuel, Rechasim and others will seemingly find the average resident paying more on their travels to other cities. internally they will pay less, and of course the elderly and youth and disabled will also pay less, but the average adult will possibly pay more.

They say that until now the prices of public transportation for Haredi towns was cheaper, subsidized and calculated using a combination of 90 different types of rates with Haredi towns being considered weak and the lowest on the socio-economic totem pole, but now they wont get those special discounted rates (except for youth, elderly, etc) but will pay base don distance just like everywhere else in the country.

it is hard to be upset when 95% or so of the country will benefit from the change. And even the remaining 5% will benefit partially (local rides will still be cheaper, as will rides to other nearby towns - only longer rides might cost more). Maybe if the price change turns out to be a significant increase, the socio-economic factor should be considered for an additional discount.

Either way, while discounting the price in general is nice, now they have to also do something about improving the service around the country. While in some places public transportation is robust and good, in others it is weak and unreliable.


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Public Transportation Rate Reform going into effect soon

Minister of Transportation Meirav Michaeli today introduced a new reform for public transportation. When it goes into effect (some time this summer), anyone 75 years old and up will travel for free. Senior citizens above the age of 62 will be able to a country-wide monthly pass for 112.5nis. 

The price for a ride within the city will be dropped to 5.5nis instead of the current 6nis. Prices right now are based on complicated calculations for different areas around the country but will now be based on distance - with rates fluctuating at different distance markers, such as 15km, 40km, and 120km..

Disabled and youth (up to 18), along with people aged 60+, will receive 50% discounts. Current discounts for soldiers, students, police and sherut leumi will remain as is.

There are other rate changes as well for different types of monthly packages. Overall it looks like public transportation will get significantly cheaper for a lot of people.
source: Ynet





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Feb 21, 2022

Quote of the Day

Minister [of Transportation Merav] Michaeli wants to implement public transportation on Shabbos. I plead with her to start first with public transportation during the week.

  -- MK Yisroel Eichler (UTJ)

Eichler always has a sharp and witty way about him, and even when I disagree with his efforts and opinions, he always has something sharp to say that is worth listening to. In this case I agree. Public transportation is inadequate in so many ways and in so many parts of the country - she might first put her efforts to making public transportation reliable and efficient in general, during the week when it is most needed, especially as Merav Michaeli repeatedly says she wants more people using public transportation and fewer using private cars. 

This reminds me of the famous story I heard of an MK pleading with then Prime Minister Moshe Sharet (I think it was him) to move Israel to a five day workweek, instead of a six day workweek. His respsonse was that first we should get the Israelis to work one day a week, then 2, then 3 and eventually we will get them up to working five days a week..



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Feb 15, 2022

private bus on the way

MK Uri Maklev (UTJ) has announced that with the increase in prices, due to cancellation of public transportation discounts in certain areas including some Haredi areas, he is going to work on establishing a private bus system for the Haredi community.

I am not sure what this entails. This has been done before and was shut down due to licensing issues. I hear that there are still some private bus lines out there. 

If they run a series of private bus line between Haredi cities, will they also be "mehadrin" in the sense of sending the women to the back of the bus? Will they be regulated? Can this be done cheaper than public bus lines that are partly subsidized by the government? Will they take rav kavs and qr codes or will it all be done by paying the driver, which has ben deemed dangerous and banned from public buses? I remember back in the good old days, with the private mehadrin buses you either had to pay someone in advance and sign up for a ride or someone would get on the bus at some point and take payment from passengers, rather than paying the driver. Maybe they would do this again.

If he can do it legally and make it work for cheaper, more power to him!

And if he can make it work, maybe it will indicate that it is time to end State-controlled public transportation. Maybe it will be time to privatize the entire thing, or at least as much as possible. 






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Dec 8, 2021

Let them Eat Cake, updated for gluten-free 2021

I dread having to go to Modiin Ilit Thankfully it is only a rare occasion that I need to go there.

the worst part of going to Modiin Ilit is getting in and out of the city. The roads are narrow, with a lot of traffic. At night near the entrance it is pitch black (and everyone there wears black coats and hats and pants so the pedestrians are hard to see). There is only one way in and one way, the same way, out, and it is a single lane in each direction. And the city has grown tremendously - it is no longer a small town of Kiryat Sefer with a small number of private cars - Modiin Ilit is a nice sized city (population of about 75,000 residents), with lots of cars and buses. Getting in and out of the city is a nightmare.

MK Uri Maklev (UTJ) today complained to Minister of Transportation Merav Michaeli about this. He implored her to accelerate the construction of roads and interchanges into the city, a project that was started a while back but hasnt gone very far and naturally takes some times even in the best of circumstances. Maklev described how bad the traffic is coming in and out at the busy times of the day, with it taking even up to half an hour to be able to leave the city.

Minister Michaeli's response was that people should take public transportation instead of private cars and cut down on the traffic. Michaeli says that the ministry's priority is to encourage the use of public transportation over private vehicles. She says that the number of private vehicle si use in Israel has grown in recent years in an unprecedented fashion and this is because, she says, the road networks were developed tremendously but without improving the system of public transportation, so people bought cars as it became more and more convenient with the better roads and less convenient to use public transportation. The solution for Modiin Ilit, she says, is to increase the use of public transportation over private vehicles.

This is somewhat of a disconnect. People have cars and need to get places where buses dont go or need to get there in a more timely fashion than that which a bus can be relied upon. She should definitely improve the public transportation system, but plenty of people will continue using cars because public transportation cannot solve all the problems. Is Merav Michaeli encouraging the residents of Ramat Aviv to use buses more than cars? What about Herzliya or Modiin? People have cars and they are going to use them. She can make public transportation better so that in the future people will be less inclined to buy cars, but right now the public transportation is not good enough and people have cars.

Regardless of the use of public transportation vs private vehicles, Modiin Ilit needs another way in and out. Modiin Ilit is not a little gated community (though it is essentially a big one), nor is it a small moshav or yishuv. it is a city with a lot of people and even if they were to increase the number of buses, they would still need more than one entrance to the city. The need for another entrance is really separate form the use of cars and buses. Such a significantly sized city cant be locked down like that with just one way out. 

Mary Antoinette said "let them eat cake". Merav Michaeli is saying "let them use buses". this is the modern day, gluten-free, version of Let them eat cake!

how about just solve the problem



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Apr 29, 2021

be responsible

Yesterday the CoronaVirus Czar, Nachman Ash, said that while they decided not to put limitations on the numbers of people allowed to go to Meron and Kever Rashbi for Lag B'Omer, each person should take responsibility for himself and keep in mind that infected people (who have not been tested) might be there walking around - each person should consider that and decide for himself to go or not to go, and how to behave while there.

Fair enough.

And even though I saw some Haredi talking heads complain about this general warning, pointing out that nobody made any similar warnings regarding the Muslims on Har Habayit for Ramadan, etc, I think the warning is fair. I see nothing wrong with reminding people to be responsible.

That being said, maybe some other people can use a similar reminder....

According to Ynet, the limits on public transportation were officially lifted this morning (even though they were mostly not enforced all along). According to Ynet the buses are jam packed, filled with people.

I have no problem with that. The rules are the rules. If it has been determined that it is time that it is safe enough to lift the restrictions, so be it. Pack 'em in like sardines just like we used to. If you need to use public transportation, just eb aware of the situation and take that into account. If you have no other choice or if you are fine with it, if you are vaccinated or recovered and don't really care, gei gezunt. If you are concerned, for whatever reason, be aware of what you might encounter when the bus arrives, and plan ahead.






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Mar 22, 2021

free public transportation

As is generally done for election day, the Electoral Board in conjunction with the Ministry of Transportation has arranged free public transportation around the country on buses and trains to enable people to travel to their official polling station to vote, even if located far away.

Obviously they could go and pay for the bus, if they felt it important enough, but the electoral board feels it is important enough to take away that barrier - some people might feel it is not worth bothering paying the price to go vote.

The free transportation actually already began, tonight at 8pm and will be in effect until public transportation ends tomorrow night.

Not all intercity buses will be free for the day, but many will be, so check if the buses you need, or want, to take are included. You can call Egged customer service (*2800) to find out, or check the Egged website.

It seems the only route for which you will need to prove you live there and are going to vote is the Eilat bus route. If you try to take the bus to Eilat you will have to show your teudat zehut or drivers license showing you live there and that is where you are registered to vote.








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Jul 13, 2020

more government chaos over Corona

This is such a weird government. The left hand ignores what the right hand says and the right hand ignores what the left hand says.

Just last week the Corona Cabinet decided on new regulations, including that swimming pools and gyms must shut down. The head of the Coronavirus Knesset Committee, Mk Yofat Shasha Biton, along with some others, wants to overturn the decision and allow pools and gyms to remain open. They say the Health Ministry never proved or showed any numbers that consider the gyms and pools to be a place of common transmission of the virus. This is now a fight within the Likud and they are trying to pressure her to not overturn and reverse the decision.

Another decision by the Corona Cabinet was that buses will stop operating at 10pm every night. Miri Regev, Minister of Transportation, has now announced that she is instructing the bus systems to continue operating as normal, past 10pm, until the regular closing times, starting tonight.

And these are all Likudniks ignoring each others decisions. Yuli Edelstein, Minister of Health, is responsible for the decisions on the new regulations, and is a senior Likudnik. Miri Regev, ignoring Edelstein, is a senior Likudnik. Shasha Biton, ignoring Edelstein, is a Likudnik.

This government is chaos.

And if the government and its representatives refuse to follow the guidelines and regulations that they themselves set, they expect citizens to be more faithful to the rules they don't even like and only begrudgingly accept in the first place?



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Jun 17, 2020

Proposed Law: Ministers cant use government cars on Shabbos

After MK Tamar Zandberg's (Meretz) law proposal for operating public transporation on Shabbos was voted down, she proposed a new law.

According to Zandberg's proposal, government issued cars would not be allowed to be used on Shabbos. Meaning, ministers and anyone else issued a government car would nopt be allowed to drive that car on Shabbos. if they have a personal privately owned car, they could drive that, but not the one issued from the government.

Zandberg explained that the Ministers should show responsibility and set themselves as a personal example to the public and let their government issued cars sit idle on Shabbos. These cars are financed by the public, and if the public can't have public transportation,  on their rest day and on holidays, the ministers should not have this type of public transportation either. This would lessen the inequality, she says.

Zandberg adds that the law would include a clause that the law itself would expire if public transportation would ever be allowed on Shabbos.
source: Haredim10

I dont know that a few dozen cars taken off the road is significant enough to lessen the inequality, but the other points are fair. Not only are those a form of public transportation, and if they are voting against it for the general public they themselves shouldn't benefit from it when they dont allow others to, but in general ministers are encouraged to not desecrate Shabbos publicly. Every time it happens a big deal is made and the minister issues an apology or explanation.... just dont let them use the car on Shabbos for private business. Obviously if there is a crisis with an urgent need requiring governmental intervention it would eb allowed, but not for general use.





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Quote of the Day

Public transportation on Shabbos is a tragedy specifically for those who do not keep Shabbos. What is left from the Shabbos atmosphere for a Jew like that? The quiet outside, the rest. Those who want to operate buses and malls on Shabbos are turning their workers into slaves who will not merit the gift of Shabbos... the wealthy and workers in the public sector who do not work on Shabbos go out on tiyulim and shopping and thereby steal the right to rest on Shabbos from the weaker sector of employed workers who have to work on Shabbos like slaves. The Torah says "so that your slaves and maidservants will rest like you"

  -- MK Yisrael Eichler (UTJ), during the big public transportation on Shabbos debate in Knesset today.

Funnily enough, MK Suva (Yisrael beyteynu) proposed during the debate that there should even be public transpiration on Shabbos to the Kotel.



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Mar 9, 2020

Israel limiting public transportation due to CoronaVirus

The Health Ministry in conjunction with the Transportation Ministry has announced new guidelines. I can't keep track of all the changes being announced with requirements for quarantines and people flying in from various countries, as every day things change in a matter of hours with new guidelines posted, but this one is significant and important and easy to follow.

They announced this morning that public transportation will start to be limited in service. For now they are going to prevent crowding on the bus lines.

Intercity buses will allow no standing at all by passengers. The bus will fill up its seats and allow nobody else on. As well, the row of seats behind the driver will have to remain empty.

Inner city buses will allow standing passengers, but only from the second row of seats and inward. The first row of seats will remain empty and nobody can stand in the are aof the driver or adjacent to the first row of seats.

Windows will be kept open as much as possible to allow ventilation. Bus drivers will be given hand sanitizer to keep his hands clean from the area and equipment by him. Any driver not feeling well will have to report it and will only be allowed back to work after medical testing. Bus schedules will continue as normal, for now.

I did not see anything about changes regarding the use of trains or the Light Rail in Jerusalem.

This is going to create chaos for a lot of people who rely on public transportation. With the same amount of buses but less passengers per bus, a lot of people will not be able to get to where they need to go. People already complain buses are too overcrowded at peak times, and now they will let fewer people on. We are going to have to change our lifestyles, hopefully only temporarily. Go less, travel less. Not just because of the inconvenience being created, but also to prevent spreading of the virus as much as possible.




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Feb 27, 2020

PSA: More changes to the bus lines 419 and 417 for RBS A

The other day the Ministry of Transportation announced changes to some of the bus routes in Bet Shemesh, including changes to the very popular bus #419. This bus serviced mostly the residents of RBS C (Gimmel), but it also serviced the residents of RBS A by exiting the city via the outskirts of RBS A with a few stops on the peripheral road. Along with many residents who live near that part of the route, many residents form all over RBS A would go to bus stops along this route because it was a much more efficient mode of transportation into Jerusalem, as it did make its way winding throughout the city before leaving. A resident of RBS A would save a minimum of 30 minutes by using the 419 over other lines, and often much longer especially during rush hour traffic.

The announcement raised an outcry on social media. Residents of RBS A were upset because a great bus route was being taken away from them. Using the other bus lines will increase transportation time by 30-45 minutes in each direction. Another problem is that the residents of the Ramat Shilo neighborhood within RBS A would now have another bus route taken away from them, with almost none left passing by their part of the neighborhood.

A better solution was requested, rather than a solution that helps one area by taking away from another. The real problem is that with no real government for the past year, there are no new budgets for adding lines, and no new tenders being published. Until elections will bring about a definitive government, all they can really do is put some band-aids on the bad situation.

Deputy Mayor of Bet Shemesh Rena Hollander took notice and took it upon herself to try to find a solution, temporary as it may be. She expressed the urgency of the matter to Minister of Transportation Betzalel Smotritch (it helps that they are both members of the same party and have an interest in helping each other to help the public), and today they announced a temporary resolution.

According to a notice put out by Minister Smotritch, posted by Rena Hollander on Facebook, he was made to understand the gravity of the situation by Rena Hollander and Yisrael Mendelson and Nisim Bariach, he has decided that for now half the buses on the 419 route will remain in operation according to the original route, and half will operate along the new route. As well, at some point int he next week, half oof the buses on the 417 line will continue along its original route and half will collect passengers in RBS A and then leave to Jerusalem without winding its way throughout the city.

Minister Smotritch expressed his hope that the legal situation will soon come to an end and they will be able to publish the tender for renewing the public transportation of Bet Shemesh. This will increase the lines by nearly 50%, and will be a resolution for the needs of all the neighborhoods and communities and the continued development of the city.

kol hakavod for this temporary solution!




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Feb 24, 2020

PSA: more bus routes (418-419) be a-changing in RBS A

The bus situation in Bet Shemesh is pretty lousy, and the Iryah has been fighting with the government to improve it as much as possible.

Bet Shemesh is a growing city, a very-fast growing city, with new neighborhoods being built and populated like nowhere else in Israel (though the problem is similarly prevalent in many new areas and not just Bet Shemesh or parts of Bet Shemesh.

As soon as new neighborhoods become populated, they need public transportation. The existing amount of public transportation serving existing neighborhoods was already barely adequate, and adding new neighborhoods whose residents will rely largely on the existing lines, with slight changes to the routes to extend them into the new neighborhoods, make the bus lines intolerable for everyone. The bus route extended to the new neighborhoods becomes a longer route that nobody likes, the bus fills up sooner and by the time it reaches the later stops it might not have space to let more people on, and everything becomes uncomfortable. In the meantime, no new lines are added, or few new lines are added, and they continue to extend existing lines.

For now, they built a bus depot between some of the new neighborhoods, to lessen the bus traffic on the roads, and to make it more viable to send some of the lines through the new neighborhoods. As a result of the new depot, many of the bus routes have had to be somewhat altered. For example, my house is relatively close to what used to be the first bus stop in RBS A, and the last stop as well, for most RBS routes. Now that they built the depot, most of the routes have been moved to the depot and the bus lines no longer use the bus stops near my house. Along the way, a few other stops have suffered the same fate. Some do, but many do not. If this is better for the greater good, for more people, so be it, even though it inconveniences some people. The problem above, of longer and fuller routes, is the bigger issue.

I do not know what the solution is - maybe the city is just too big by now for every neighborhood to have its own set of buses, each with local lines and lines going to Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and a variety of other cities. As well, having so many more buses on the roads just continues to make traffic int he city worse, as each new set of bus lines servicing the different neighborhoods clogs up the roads. Maybe it is time for a Central Bus Station for inter-city travel, with buses from the neighborhoods going to the CBA and then from there out to the different cities. It makes it less convenient for many, as everyone wants the bus to stop right next to his own house, but the current situation has gotten really bad.

In the meantime, the best bus from RBS to Jerusalem is now being changed. The 419 line ran from RBS C (aka Gimmel), up Tzeelim into RBS A, up Kishon and out of the neighborhood to Jerusalem. it avoided most of the city and even in RBS only ran on the peripheral street. It was a very popular bus because its route was much quicker than many of the others. Now the route of the 419 is being changed to include one of the new neighborhoods, and it is also affecting how it leaves the city. Instead of coming up Tzeelim and Kishon, it will now come from the bridge of RBS C and go up Hayarqon, cutting out the first few stops in RBS A (and it only had several to begin with!), and leaving just the last two before heading out to Jerusalem.

This is a big change that will affect a lot of people, so I am posting it here, so everyone can plan their trips accordingly and go to the right bus stop (and get off at the right bus stop on the way back)..:

From Shemesh Online:

Starting this Friday, February 28,  there will be changes in the Egged 418, 419 bus routes in Ramat Beit Shemesh. 

418 from Beit Shemesh to Jerusalem
The bus will depart from Eliyahu Hanavi / Aviv bus stop (stop 1306 - located near RBS G’2),  continue on Eliyahu Hanavi Street, turn left onto the Sderot Nachal HaYarkon, turn right onto Nachal Luz St. and continue along the original route.

New departure station: Eliyahu HaNavi / Aviv (stop 1306)

Please Note: Apart from the bus stop indicated, there are no other new stops on the route.

418 from Jerusalem to Ramat Beit Shemesh
Travel along the original route up to Nachal Luz Street, turn left onto the Sderot Nachal Yarkon, turn right onto Eliyahu HaNavi Street and endat oute at Eliyahu HaNavi / Rav Shlomo Zalman Auerbach Station (stop 1305).

New Final bus stop: Eliyahu Hanavi / HaRavi Shlomo Zalman Auerbach (Stop 1305).

419 from Ramat Beit Shemesh to Jerusalem
Please note that the Tze’elim and Kishon stops will no longer be serviced by the 419. 

Depart from Zechariah Hanavi / Sderot Amoraim (Stop 1323), turn right onto Neriah Hanavi St., continue to Yirmiyahu Hanavi  Street, turn right onto Chagai Hanavi St., continue to Yechezkel Hanavi St., turn left onto Chabakkuk Hanavi St, left to Yechezkel Hanavi St.,  left to Yona Ben Amitai St., continue to Devorah Hanavi St., turn right onto Eliyahu Hanavi St. - make a U-turn at the circle back to Eliyahu Hanavi St., turn right onto the Sderot Nahar Yarkon and continue along the original route.

419 from Jeruslam to Ramat Beit Shemesh
Please note that the Tze’elim and Kishon stops will no longer be serviced by the 419.

Travel on the original route up to Sderot Nachal  HaYarkon, turn left onto Eliyahu Hanavi St., right onto Devorah Hanavi St., continue to Yona Ben Amitai St., turn right onto Yechezkel Hanavi St., right onto Chabakkuk Hanavi St., Right to Yechezkel Hanavi St., left to Yirmiyahu Hanavi Street, right to Chagai Hanavi St., left to Neria Hanavi St., left to Zechariah Hanavi St. and the final stop at  Zechariah Hanavi / Neria Hanavi (Stop 1325).







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Feb 10, 2020

Rav Kavs going the way of the Dodo bird

Sam Waterson is quoted as having said "If you are not moving forward, you are falling back". Mikhail Gorbachev is quoted as having said something very similar, "If you are not moving forward you are moving backward".

The point of both is that people always need to be look to progress, how to improve, how to move forward. If you take it easy and rest on your laurels, you are falling behind. You are falling behind all the other people who are moving forward and you are falling behind yourself and your own advancement.

The rav kav system for public transportation finally seems to be running pretty smoothly, but that only means it is time for the next great advancement in transportation technology. Within a few months the next greatest thing since sliced bread will be released to the public, and it will basically put the rav kav system to rest.

The new apps soon to be released will allow passengers on public transportation in Israel to pay using the phone directly, with no rav kav or anything else. According to JPost,

public transportation users will need to open up the app after getting on a bus or intercity train, choose which form of public transport they’re on and then scan a QR code that will be placed on every bus and train that will let the app know which line they’re on, according to Calcalist. The user will then need to indicate how long they’re planning on traveling on the line in order to be charged the correct fee. The app will then provide a payment confirmation, which users can show to inspectors if they’re asked to prove that they paid.

Another benefit of the new system will be that at the end of the month it will analyze the trips the passenger normally takes and recommend the cheapest travel package it thinks is appropriate, whether it be some combination of daily or monthly packages, or accrued money, or bundles of rides...

Interestingly, because many Haredim (and some others) do not use smartphones, a solution for them is also being developed so they can use, and benefit from, the new system. According to the Bizness website, an official within the Ministry of Transportation has said, unofficially for now, that a special bracelet is in development that will work with the new devices on the bus for paying for rides. Other possible "smart" solutions are also being looked into that would not be smartphone-dependent.

I find it cute that they think that Haredi men are going to wear this special bracelet so they can pay on the bus. Obviously it can be kept in a pocket or in a backpack (or gal paz bag), but then why make it into a bracelet rather than just a small coin shape or a disc (similar to a dog tag disc) or something else that can go into the wallet or pocket?

I hope they will make it easy for people to transfer the balance of money people have on their rav kavs onto the new system, be it phone or bracelet or whatnot...



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Jan 27, 2020

Cities sue State for better public transportation

A number of cities around Israel, including Bet Shemesh, went to the Supreme Court today with a lawsuit regarding the poor bus services provided in these cities, saying the people are being held hostage by the shortage of buses and the poor service provided. The petition to the court was accompanied by the mayor, Dr Aliza Bloch, and by support and assistants of MKs.

I know how bad the service is. Buses that don't come on time. buses that just don't come at all. Lousy schedules. Neighborhoods that only have buses that make extremely circuitous routes through the city, making a potentially short trip take a very long time. Overfilled buses, especially with school children. And more.

And the funny thing is that in Bet Shemesh the bus system is so much better than it used to be. And it is still lousy. I remember the days when the only local bus was pretty much the #14 and that took ages to wind its way through every single neighborhood of the city. Today there are so many more bus lines and so many more buses running on each line, and it still is not even close to adequate in supplying the needs of the city residents.

Now I am really not sure what the court is going to do, or is expected to do. Are they going to order the State to supply more buses? What is the role of the court in such an issue?

the bus companies cannot make any changes to their schedules, add or subtract buses or bus lines, without the approval of the Transportation Ministry. These are coalition MKs supporting the petition, so I am not sure why they have just not pushed the Ministry of Transportation, held by them for ten years now, to increase the number of buses and bus lines or do whatever is necessary to solve the problems in these various cities. They are petitioning the courts against themselves? They want the courts to force the coalition they sit in to improve the situation - why not just do it without the courts? I am not really sure how this works and what they are doing and what they expect to happen here.






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