Feb 21, 2016

bleach and baking soda have saved us

The mashgiach of a yeshiva in Hadera, known to be associated with the "Peleg Yerushalmi" - I do not know if that is relevant or not but it has been mentioned many times on the radio so I suspect it might be - has said something that sounds, to me, totally insane.

Rav Tuviah Novick has spoken out against vaccinations, though not the normal way with unfounded claims about vaccinations causing autism or anything like that. Rather he claimed that the vaccinations are really just the State pulling the wool over our eyes. According to Rabbi Novick, vaccinations, and he mentioned polio specifically, are really just made up of baking soda and bleach, and nobody has any way of knowing otherwise.

Rabbi Novick also said that if God forbid a typhus plague would break out... it is impossible to imagine the disaster and panic that would accompany it..
source: Kikar

I hope parents pull their kids out of this yeshiva and switch them to another one. They should not let their children be educated by such a person.

God forbid if a typhus plague would break out... Does he not realize that the reason we no longer have typhus plagues breaking out is because of the vaccinations that prevent it (along with our having clean water). Does he not realize the reason we no longer have polio around us (and I grew up with a friend whose mother was confined to a wheelchair because of polio) is because of those vaccinations? Does he think that these diseases and plagues went away on their own?

I hope this idiocy is not indicative of his approach in any other aspect of his life, but I would not want my kid to be educated by him.




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7 comments:

  1. Did you misunderstand? My ivrit ain't that great, but I don't think he's speaking out against vaccinations, as you claim. The opposite. He's saying that instead of inoculating the Israeli public with the real thing, the misrad habriut provided fake vaccines, made of bleach and baking soda. That is why he is so afraid of a typhus outbreak, because the Israeli public has not been in reality immunized from it.

    One can argue if that is, or isn't, as crazy as saying all vaccines are bleach and baking soda. In light of some of the things the Israel bureaucracy has been guilty of over the years, in my opinion it is far less crazy.

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  2. Yah, I think you missed the boat on this one. Its a rant against the government and how you cant trust them (a point many people would agree to), not a rant against real vaccines. I believe an apology and retraction is in order

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  3. what did I miss? i tis a rant against the government, but I dont care aboutpeople ranting aganist the government. plenty of people do that. his rant against the government is about the vaccines being fake. he is afraid of a typhus outbreak because nobody would be vaccinated and it would devastate the population. I said that it wont happen because everyone is vaccinated. I am not sure what you think I am missing. that his target is the government, not vaccines? I know that, but I am commenting on his argument, not his target

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    1. WADR, I do think that your post is not accurate. He is not saying that vaccines in general are constituted from baking soda and bleach, but that the government is not providing the real vaccine. He would agree that "the reason we no longer have typhus plagues breaking out is because of the vaccinations that prevent it" and that "the reason we no longer have polio around us is because of those vaccinations." He just thinks that the current vaccine supplied by the government is not a real one. [This may be nuts as well, but a different kind of nuts.]

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  4. Of course it is a rant against the government. There are some people, who will talk against anything of the state authority, whether it be health, or simple road manners. I mean, look at the way drivers act on our own roads here in Ramat Beit Shemesh. I could go into detail too, suffice it to say, most of the time, the law is being broken, but also because this behaviour is dangerous, it is also against the Torah to act in this way. And if our esteemed Rabbi is so concerned against the health of us all, does he tell his pupils in Yeshiva to wash their hands WITH SOAP, after being to the bathroom BEFORE doing Netilat Yadayim. Netilat Yadayim will not clean off any germs from the bathroom. In fact Netilat Yadayim is pointless if the hands are not hygienically clean beforehand.

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    1. Least they could do is to use baking soda and bleach, which they could get from the go supplied vaccines.

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    2. Government supplied vaccines.

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