Aug 19, 2014

Is Lipa banned or not?


A few years ago there was an attempt to put some sort of ban or boycott on Lipa and many other frum singers. The claim was due to these performing in front of mixed crowds.

(as an aside, Mishpacha recently criticized frum people being seen at a Chutzt Hayotzer concert that was before a mixed crowd and it mentioned  that this prohibition is clear in Shulchan Aruch, though it did not give any reference. The only thing I know about Shulchan Aruch requiring a halachic separation between men and women is during tefilla, prayer. Any other situation can surely be debated on the merits of tzniyus and gender-segregation, but to say it is a violation of a clear halacha irks me).

you can look back to 3 years ago when Lipa was banned and even see that Rav Chaim Kanievsky is signed on a supposed ban.

Yet, Bechadrei is reporting that Lipa went to Rav Chaim Kanievsky for a bracha. He then offered to sing a song for Rav Kanievsky, but Rav Kanievsky turned him down saying learning torah is more important. Lipa then asked about composing a new song, and Rav Kanievsky told him to compose a song about shmitta - any topic of shmitta, but shmitta.

So, did Rav Chaim Kanievsky ban Lipa or not? Was he banned but the ban was lifted or did it expire? Or was the original a fraud?







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14 comments:

  1. You write that Shulchan Aruch specifies separation specifically for tefillah. I do not see that in Shulchan Aruch. Can you cite siman/saif?

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  2. my mistake. not in the shulchan aruch, but in later poskim the only requirement for a mechitza is for tefilla

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    1. and on top of that, if it is a minyan 'arai', then no mechitza is needed either

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  3. can you provide the source?

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  4. there are many poskim who talk about it as a chiyuv for tefilla. Rav Moshe Feinstein has perhaps the most famous teshuva in Igros Moshe. Many others as well dating back much earlier. will look for some specific sources

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  5. "אגרות משה" (או"ח א סי' לט)

    "ציץ אליעזר" (ז סי' ח)

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  6. I doubt rav k, whose father in law reportedly didn't even know his own daughter's name because all he was interested in was strictly torah, was interested inhearing a song.

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  7. The gemoro requires separation of the sexes at funerals.

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    1. source?
      I remember the gemoro talking about women who would be hired to stand by the grave wailing. i guess nothing was said explicitly about it, but it never seemed to me to conducive to a separation.
      by a funeral I would even say the rule the gemara applies by sotah applies as well that there is no desire in a situation of nivul.

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    2. There is a gemara in the end of Kiddushin - but it is not talking about separation, rather about prohibiting yichud at a funeral.

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  8. theres no requirement for a mechitza during tfillah, just some sort of separation.

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    1. at least rav moshe holds the chiyyuv for a mechitza is d'oraisa. I think he says it is a halacha lmoshe misinai

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  9. SB, Beit ShemeshAugust 24, 2014 10:38 AM

    צריך אדם להתרחק מן הנשים מאד מאד.

    שו"ע אה"ע כא:א

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  10. חייבים בית דין להעמיד שוטרים ברגלים, שיהיו משוטטים ומחפשים בגנות ובפרדסים ועל הנהרות, שלא יתקבצו שם לאכול ולשתות אנשים ונשים ויבואו לידי עבירה. וכן יזהירו בדבר זה לכל העם, שלא יתערבו אנשים ונשים בבתיהם בשמחה, ולא ימשכו ביין, שמא יבואו לידי עבירה, אלא יהיו כולם קדושים.

    שולחן ערוך אורח חיים תקכט:ד

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